FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Dunno yet. That's up to them.
Dunno yet. That's up to them.
[That's not making him want to do this any more. And it's not really clearing anything up. So, persistence. (sorry.)]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
what do you mean?
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
what do you mean?
[ And no one was surprised, Mr. Jaeger. ]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
I mean everyone in this organization has a choice.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
I mean everyone in this organization has a choice.
[You're not the boss of him, Warriorhead! Except for the part where you sort of are.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
we do what you say or you take out our homes.
[That's about as much choice as any one of them really has, in the end. It's about the only reason he hasn't kicked up more of a fuss than he has. Too much at stake, (too many cooler heads to reign him in.) Still.]
what does selling out our comrades have to do with it?
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
we do what you say or you take out our homes.
[That's about as much choice as any one of them really has, in the end. It's about the only reason he hasn't kicked up more of a fuss than he has. Too much at stake, (too many cooler heads to reign him in.) Still.]
what does selling out our comrades have to do with it?
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Who said anything about selling our comrades?
Who said anything about selling our comrades?
[Wh.
Okay, trying again without the figure of speech.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
You're asking us to tell you who we think is weak.
[Among other things. "Selling them out" not...actually...selling them...]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
you said what happens is up to them. what does the choice have to do with it?
Okay, trying again without the figure of speech.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
You're asking us to tell you who we think is weak.
[Among other things. "Selling them out" not...actually...selling them...]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
you said what happens is up to them. what does the choice have to do with it?
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Yes.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
And yes.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
And, they will be given a choice.
A few actually.
Yes.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
And yes.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
And, they will be given a choice.
A few actually.
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
are you gonna tell me what it is?
[Might as well try.]
are you gonna tell me what it is?
[Might as well try.]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Sure.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
If you're in the 6.
Sure.
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
If you're in the 6.
[Tried and failed, such is his life. He grinds his teeth a little.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
I'm not weak.
[He used to be. He worked really damn hard to change that. The degree of success is up for debate, maybe, but he refuses to let things stay the same.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
why ask us?
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
I'm not weak.
[He used to be. He worked really damn hard to change that. The degree of success is up for debate, maybe, but he refuses to let things stay the same.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
why ask us?
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Because you're a team.
Because you're a team.
[Good thing he was recruited a few hours before the last team he was a part of died horrifically because of him, or he'd have angsty flashbacks over that. Instead, he's just a little confused.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
you want us to work together on this?
[On the surface it looks pretty dog-eat-dog.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
you want us to work together on this?
[On the surface it looks pretty dog-eat-dog.]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
I want the reports. Everything else is up to you.
I want the reports. Everything else is up to you.
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
everything except what happens to them after.
[God WH you're so vague it drives him nuts. His whole life has been a whole lot of pursuing truths held just out of his reach. He just wants to figure out how he feels about this. (The answer is "confused and sort of pissed off," but he feels that way about a lot of things, so something more specific would be nice.)
There's a pause as he works out how shounen he can be through text. Warriorhead said he asked them to make these choices because they're a team. He really doesn't get it.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
someone told me working on a team means relying on each other. even if some people are stronger than others, they can't do everything on their own either.
[You work together. It's the biggest lesson he's taken from Petra and the Special Operations Squad, so far. (Because it's yet to blow up in his face.)]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
picking people out as weak doesn't make you a team
everything except what happens to them after.
[God WH you're so vague it drives him nuts. His whole life has been a whole lot of pursuing truths held just out of his reach. He just wants to figure out how he feels about this. (The answer is "confused and sort of pissed off," but he feels that way about a lot of things, so something more specific would be nice.)
There's a pause as he works out how shounen he can be through text. Warriorhead said he asked them to make these choices because they're a team. He really doesn't get it.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
someone told me working on a team means relying on each other. even if some people are stronger than others, they can't do everything on their own either.
[You work together. It's the biggest lesson he's taken from Petra and the Special Operations Squad, so far. (Because it's yet to blow up in his face.)]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
picking people out as weak doesn't make you a team
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
You're making a lot of interesting assumptions.
Are you afraid of my intentions?
You're making a lot of interesting assumptions.
Are you afraid of my intentions?
[Being so far behind the times, it's taken a lot of wrestling with himself to accept the fact that Annie and Reiner aren't who he wants them to be. In some ways he's still struggling with it, because he's always been better at dealing with things head on instead of in hypotheticals. But he's not stupid. And the possibility of compromise isn't one that had ever really occurred to him, once the lines in the sand had been drawn on both sides. (You don't negotiate with traitors.)
So, quickly—]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
Compromise?
[After everything they say has happened, what is there to compromise about?]
So, quickly—]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
Compromise?
[After everything they say has happened, what is there to compromise about?]
[Well. Yeah, maybe a little. Not that he'd phrase it that way. The CDC has lied to people to get them here, in his opinion. It's hard to trust, after that.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
You should just say what you mean.
[If you don't want people to make assumptions. But maybe part of the reason he's sort of ok with Warriorhead is because the instructor seems pretty interested in keeping his recruits alive. So this is him being less belligerent, really. The thing about Eren is that the best way to get him to follow orders he doesn't agree with is to get him to understand them. This is sort of the opposite.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
You should just say what you mean.
[If you don't want people to make assumptions. But maybe part of the reason he's sort of ok with Warriorhead is because the instructor seems pretty interested in keeping his recruits alive. So this is him being less belligerent, really. The thing about Eren is that the best way to get him to follow orders he doesn't agree with is to get him to understand them. This is sort of the opposite.]
Edited (typos no) 2014-07-18 05:25 (UTC)
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
I don't like doing things that way.
[ Well, at least he's honest? ]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Pretending someone isn't weak, or ignoring their weakness, does not make them strong.
I don't like doing things that way.
[ Well, at least he's honest? ]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
Pretending someone isn't weak, or ignoring their weakness, does not make them strong.
wow one day I'll write you shorter tags I'm so sorry
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2014-07-19 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
[Honest and incredibly frustrating!!! He's too straightforward for this cryptic crap, WH.
There is, however, a chastened sort of pause after the second message goes through.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
is that why you're asking? to make them stronger.
[As opposed to weeding them out, or doing...whatever Dagger's even been doing to his team. Yes, Warriorhead has already said he's not planning on telling. No, that's not going to stop him from pursuing it anyway.
Ignoring reality doesn't make it go away. He knows that. He worked very hard to try and pull himself up and away from his own weakness. He used to be all for people bowing out of training if they couldn't deal. (It's better than seeing them die in action later.) But "consent" be damned, claiming that everyone here knew what they were getting into would be a lie. And they can't exactly pick up and leave if they're not cut out for this, either. Not if they give a damn about where they came from.
It makes it a little more dire than washing out of the military. They can't run away. The only real options left are to die or survive.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
I saw what can happen out there.
[He means the lockdown. A slaughter of uncomfortably familiar scale. A reminder that sometimes just being strong isn't enough. Sasha was a good soldier. Bertholt was one of the greatest threats humanity has ever faced. They still hadn't made it. It's been weeks, but it's still eating at him.]
None of us were strong enough to stop that.
[They'd tried, and they'd failed. And admitting that is frustrating, too.]
There is, however, a chastened sort of pause after the second message goes through.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
is that why you're asking? to make them stronger.
[As opposed to weeding them out, or doing...whatever Dagger's even been doing to his team. Yes, Warriorhead has already said he's not planning on telling. No, that's not going to stop him from pursuing it anyway.
Ignoring reality doesn't make it go away. He knows that. He worked very hard to try and pull himself up and away from his own weakness. He used to be all for people bowing out of training if they couldn't deal. (It's better than seeing them die in action later.) But "consent" be damned, claiming that everyone here knew what they were getting into would be a lie. And they can't exactly pick up and leave if they're not cut out for this, either. Not if they give a damn about where they came from.
It makes it a little more dire than washing out of the military. They can't run away. The only real options left are to die or survive.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
I saw what can happen out there.
[He means the lockdown. A slaughter of uncomfortably familiar scale. A reminder that sometimes just being strong isn't enough. Sasha was a good soldier. Bertholt was one of the greatest threats humanity has ever faced. They still hadn't made it. It's been weeks, but it's still eating at him.]
None of us were strong enough to stop that.
[They'd tried, and they'd failed. And admitting that is frustrating, too.]
FROM: warriorhead@cdc.org
You're going to have to trust my judgement.
[ Because ultimately, that is what this mission comes down to. There will be those in Orange Unit who complete their assignment. Choosing to avoid it will change nothing and 'save' no one.
What Jaeger elects to do, what any of his unit elects to do, is up to them. Warriorhead is not troubled by this detail because he considers his team to be uniquely gifted.
Perhaps that would be called trust.
Warriorhead calls it expectation. ]
You're going to have to trust my judgement.
[ Because ultimately, that is what this mission comes down to. There will be those in Orange Unit who complete their assignment. Choosing to avoid it will change nothing and 'save' no one.
What Jaeger elects to do, what any of his unit elects to do, is up to them. Warriorhead is not troubled by this detail because he considers his team to be uniquely gifted.
Perhaps that would be called trust.
Warriorhead calls it expectation. ]
[It isn't like Hange hasn't put a considerable amount of thought into what's occurring between both sides. However, she's used to making lackluster compromises for humanity's sake. The idea of striking a deal with traitors leaves a bitter taste in her mouth, but—]
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
Yes.
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
I know this won't easy, but we wouldn't be compromising if I knew this wasn't going to help us prepare for the bigger enemy.
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
We have to make use of the opportunities we have available to us, even if it means working with traitors.
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
Yes.
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
I know this won't easy, but we wouldn't be compromising if I knew this wasn't going to help us prepare for the bigger enemy.
FROM: hange.zoe@cdc.org
We have to make use of the opportunities we have available to us, even if it means working with traitors.
FROM: serket.vriska@cdc.org
TO: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
hey, eren!
TO: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
hey, eren!
[Woah, text. Luckily, Eren's on downtime, so he answers pretty immediately.]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
Vriska?
[What???]
FROM: jaeger.eren@cdc.org
Vriska?
[What???]
ugh, texting all you assholes is getting tiring. ::::/ which is pretty lame on its own, if i think a8out it.
listen! have you noticed anything suspicious happening l8ly? anyone getting sick for no reason or something weird and unexpected like that????
listen! have you noticed anything suspicious happening l8ly? anyone getting sick for no reason or something weird and unexpected like that????
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